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Roderigo Borgia
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Posted - 2010.02.05 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Wildcard Trek
Originally by: Xennith
Deploying SBUs into HED was probably what made them think that you would attack HED.
That was done only 2 days ago, when they deployed them in 9UY, was kind of funny watching everyone scurry home, HED was never in the official plan. We had enough respect for AAA to not even bother.
no no the fact you tried to take sov along the pipe from d-g to hed is totally not pointing out your objectives.... as for respect if you had any you wouldn't have invaded our space.. cva's warmongering started this conflict let us not forget!
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.08 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Wtf Pwnage Wall of text!
I really dont know why it has to be repeated so many times but CVA invaded our space! We offered a negotiated peace deal which ammounted to us giving back d-g in exchange for them not invading our space again. THEY refused and continued to plot how to steal our space, therefor leaving us with the only option of destroying them to protect our own interests.
As for RP, well that is U'K's thing too infact i think they been at it longer than cva (Not sure on this) As for -A- well we're supporting ou allies :)
As for flying ammar ships - since these ships are mostly build outside the control of the amarr empire - it does not impact the efforts to free the slaves and where the need arises using the best tool for the job be it minmatar or amarrian tech is just common sence - i also dont believe that U'K has claimed to fly exclusively minmatar ships infact i'm even willing to bet there are afew amarrians in u'k (again not sure on this)
your points about self suffiency are somewhat confusing - yes u'k are our allies - much the same as cva has LOTS (or had) of allies. You yourself were reliant on cva's protection while in providence so self suffiencey in the absence of people wil a like mind to yourself is needed but not nessesarily optimal - and we had no problem with how cva made money in providence what we objected to was there invasion of our space. As for the slaves U'K is liberating from CVA they are the non capsulear population trapped, beaten adn whipped into doing their masters bidding
as for the nrds policy being erradicated from 0.0 - there are other regions of 0.0 where nrds policys are being upheld - and u'k after cva have been removed most likely would return to the nrds policy they operate in other regions of space outside of the current warzone. also once cva is gone what happens in providence really is little concern to us
as for being ashamed - perhaps you should think once again about who started this conflict - who offered to end it peacefully and reevaluate your position
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.08 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor
Originally by: Roderigo Borgia
I really dont know why it has to be repeated so many times but CVA invaded our space!
Which space was invaded?
There were some abandonned systems...
sv5 and f9e amoung others may have not been offically soverign territory but that they were in our sphere of influence was well known by both you and your cva masters, dont try deny it will jsut make you look ignorant.
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.08 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor
Originally by: Roderigo Borgia
sv5 and f9e amoung others may have not been offically soverign territory but that they were in our sphere of influence was well known by both you and your cva masters, dont try deny it will jsut make you look ignorant.
We don't read minds very well.
If -A- has their flag planted in a system, we know that it is claimed and under their influence.
If you drop sovreignty in a system, why would we not assume it was no longer wanted?
Or is -A- struggling to keep up payments under these new sovreingty regulation? They certainly are a pain, eh...
Anyway, as you admit. These were not "offically sovereign territory" and so there was no invasion... at least not until -A- attacked legitimate sovreignty under the regulations.
you dont need to be a mind reader just takes a little common sence and about 2 neurons and as your cva master declared so proudly right here that they were invading catch it seems rather silly to deny it now
as for the invasion - you can deny it if you wish but since 0.0 is lawless space your invasion was as real and legitimate as ours - we just did it with more style, skill and talent
we beat back your invasion then removed some of your territory for good measure - a message your masters didn't seem to understand and it is begining to look like that you dont either
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.08 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor
I am simply a realist.
The facts remain regardless of any claims by either side. The systems were unclaimed and so somebody decided to claim them. I do not make this judgement, CONCORD does. We call it lawless space, yet still we suffer increased regulation, expences, and general red tape...
But if -A- need to cry 'Invasion' then that is their issue...
they were 'claimed' they just weren't holding sov - unlike some alliances we prefer using our isk for building hmmm oh i dont know SUPER-CAPITALS than claiming systems that have no need to be holding sov to be used
with your level of short sightedness though its no wonder you cant even defend what you had let alone invade anywhere else
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.08 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor
So sure, you wished to have the benifit of the systems without paying the fees to show legal sovreignty.
That's fine. It just meant it wasn't an invasion. That's all.
pray tell then what was it? moving in and attempting to claim space that was under the influence of someone else is generally called an invasion regardless of what labels and red tape was or was not in place
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.08 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor
It was officially unclaimed space.. meh. I did not write the CONCORD regulations. You will have to take it up with them.
Pray tell why do you find the need to even call it an invasion?
Did you need an excuse to invade Providence?
i call it an invasion because you tried to take our systems that you know damn fine were ours and only dropped sov in because we didn't feel it was nessessry for those systems to be wasting isk
regulations and rules have nothing to do with it - they were ours you tried to steal - and now you'll pay the price
knowone in -a- wanted this war (though i grant you has been quite alot of fun) we even offered peace - but cva wanted war so war they have gotten - hope you all think it was such a good idea when running mission in high sec
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